“We met in the front door.”

KZ gallery: It’s no secret that the virtual space of the KZ gallery has unique exposure capabilities. For your exhibition, you chose a parade space. What influenced your choice?

Vitaliy Dobrov: This is the first thing that came to mind. This is due to reflections about where there should be real graffiti (although my exhibition is not about graffiti). I think it should not be on the street, but in houses and entrances. And also because recently I have been sitting at home a lot or going out for a short while, and everything revolves around my entrance.

KZ: Your paintings are abstract, combine unexpected artistic techniques. As a spectator, it’s interesting for me to observe the artistic process, which, it seems to me, resembles a game. Tell us a little about the method of creating works. What is most important for you in the artistic process?

VD: The work was done by improvised means. Only a small part of the exhibition came to the exhibition, but all of them were made in the past year and there are a lot of them, about three hundred. It was very important for me to be in the stream, know everything and not know anything (chi). I like the monotype. I myself would call it a “carbon monoxide seal”: I simply smeared the paint on a flexible piece of plastic and printed it on paper, scoffed and moved this piece to get a dynamic form, such a “printed ballet”. One of your favorite tools is an aerosol can, where without it. I’m obsessed with the idea of ​​fractals and this is also reflected in the works, there you can see the repetition of large forms in small and vice versa, such a paternal mindset. The main thing for me in the process is honesty.

KZ: What is the reason for choosing the name of the exhibition. Is there a story behind this?

VD: I write Yonysh, this is the only name that I got accustomed to and I love him very much. “Gadenysh” is even steeper, and if it sounds in the Moscow entrance, then in general sugar.

KZ: A few years ago you painted graffiti. You have a project created on canvases. But now you are working with computer technologies to realize your creative ideas. How did it happen? And what creative tasks do you set for yourself now?

VD: I do not like to go on long rails, even if you’re going well. The first picture (it was a collage in Photoshop) I did in primary school. I was interested in understanding graphics programs. As a result, I was engulfed in poster art, what I’m doing now. Therefore, I made the poster for the exhibition myself. Creative tasks appear by themselves, I look around and try to write myself into the present, try for example “to win” pictures, to do generative animation or to understand the programming of sound. I like to try different things, you go off into some ideas, but something remains an interesting experience. I have one task and I think for life, realize creative projects and interactions, and from this everything else follows.

KZ: Your creative activity is not limited to the creation of paintings. I would like to know more about your projects.

VD: I write music and I’m a co-owner of a music label – “Frontline Squad”. Music is the lion’s share of my thoughts. Formerly issued ZIN (samizdat), making them pictures himself. I also have a frozen project called “Shalash”: we shot comic portraits of our country’s cultural figures, who are mostly known in narrow circles or even known only to themselves.

KZ: How do you think, how important is the moment of wide popularity for a modern artist? Or is it better to stay in the underground and maximally preserve your artistic identity?

VD: I was very fond of the underground phenomenon, when I was actively drawing graffiti. I had a narrow circle of people with whom I drew, there was an unpopular sotsset, where I seldom post a selection of the best works and another favorite streetfiles (a photographic platform for graffiti artists from around the world that has not existed for a long time). Now the underground is completely vulgarized, it is vparivayut in every corner, even I write this word and turns. Here’s a wonderful example: I read an interview with a musician who is asked what kind of music you should be in the underground? Then follows the discussion that she has a public with 30 thousand subscribers, and she and her group go to festivals in Europe. I will clarify, this is neither good nor bad. But what is it about, what underground? We made parties for ten people in an abandoned Moscow

bunker and we did not have a word about the underground. I will clarify my position with one of Ivan Ahmetiev’s favorite poems:

from many other writers

I am different

that I personally know

with all their readers

Personally, it’s important for me to just honestly express myself, and not in what environment to exist. Well, if there will be more sites that deal with their business, namely expose the artists or provide them with a platform for creative collaborations. Of course, these sites need a state. support and support of people. Therefore, I urge people to be not indifferent to at least those who belong to your cultural environment, otherwise we all will die of our machine.

KZ: Why did you get attracted to the idea of ​​an exhibition in KZ space?

VD: Yes, I just found this project in the open spaces of social networks and immediately wrote a proposal! When, if not now, do a virtual exhibition! In my opinion it’s time, to some extent it’s a visionary project. And when Dima Rotkin said that you can choose any space for the exhibition, I was very happy. Team KZ guys are sensible, rational, open and cheerful, it would be nice if everyone were like that.

The interview was prepared by Nadya Albul. Especially for the KZ gallery.